Forgotten fruits
Nov. 30th, 2019 09:40 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Quince is one of those things I’d seen referenced in historical literature, but had never encountered in person. Although Wikipedia tells me it’s eaten fairly regularly in some parts of Europe, and there’s absolutely nothing preventing it being grown in the U.S., you’re not going to find it at your average supermarket here.
I suspect that’s in part because you mostly can’t snack on it raw, the way you can with apples and pears and oranges and bananas and all the other things commonly found in the produce section. You either have to cook it, or you have to wait for it to blet — that is, to go overripe and sort of (but not exactly) rotten. The same is true of medlars, another fruit we’ve largely forgotten. Also some varieties of persimmons; I suspect the one time I tried to eat ripe persimmon I may have been eating the wrong kind, as I found it unpleasantly astringent. But those I’m seeing around more these days — though still not at the supermarket. Persimmon trees aren’t uncommon in northern California, so not only the farmers’ market but possibly one’s neighbors may have their fruit on offer.
But if waiting for fruit to sort of but not exactly rot isn’t your idea of an appetizing approach, there’s always cooking. Which is why quince has come into my life: one stall at our farmers’ market sells it, and last year my husband (who makes jam) ventured to make quince paste. It’s very strong-tasting stuff — but if you pair it with manchego cheese (itself quite strong-tasting), a strange alchemy happens and you wind up with something amazing.
All well and good. But this year he wound up with a few extra quinces, not quite enough to make another batch of paste. So instead he decided to make quince-and-apple pie for Thanksgiving. It’s quite nice! Quinces are related to apples anyway, and they combine well. Which is good when your husband decides he’s got too much quince for one pie, but enough apple to fill it out and make two pies.
. . . during the Thanksgiving when your sister-in-law already has a store-bought apple pie and a small cherry pie, and is making a pumpkin pie. O_O Five pies (well, four and a half) for nine people. Um.
There are, of course, other things one can do with quince. Like poach them in sugar water with some spices. One might possibly suggest to one’s husband that this would have been more sensible than making a second quince-and-apple pie. One might not quite buy one’s husband’s argument that you really want larger chunks of quince for that, and he’d already sliced it all thin, so there was nothing to be done but make a second pie.
But hey. There’s always next year. And maybe I’ll find some medlars for him to poach instead.
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Date: 2019-11-30 06:54 pm (UTC)Quince + Apple pie with cinnamon and clove
Quince Jelly (I think what you'd call quince paste)
Quince Wine
Poached Quince
Quince in sweet mincemeat :)
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-11-30 07:46 pm (UTC)Quince wine is amazing.
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:04 pm (UTC)P.
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-11-30 08:40 pm (UTC)I know a lot of people who ask permission to pick fruit from people's property, especially things like crabapples that most people don't plan to harvest, but also perfectly good pears and apples that were planted by previous owners and that the current ones can't deal with for some reason. I know one owner of a pear tree was allergic to pears and delighted to have them taken away. Personally, I'd find it easier to sneak in in the dead of night than to knock on a stranger's door, but that is not really rational.
P.
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Date: 2019-12-01 09:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-12-02 08:19 pm (UTC)Do you know the name of the organization that donates fruit? That sounds like a really good thing to promote.
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-11-30 07:36 pm (UTC)Now I'm tempted to dump some of the quince paste in hot water and see what happens!
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:47 pm (UTC)My parents have a quince tree in their backyard. They've never done anything with the fruit, mostly because it would require a level of maintenance that neither of them cares that much about, but it's there every year. The times we've cooked with quince, we've bought them from our local farmstand, which has the same climate but people who don't mind pruning and spraying.
I look forward to the medlar experiment next year!
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Date: 2019-11-30 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-11-30 07:50 pm (UTC)That's a really nice thing to have access to.
(The quinces all seem to get eaten by wasps or birds or squirrels, and you know, if it makes them happy?)
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Date: 2019-11-30 08:00 pm (UTC)I am surprised to hear the sour cherries don't suffer more from birds, and I have no suggestions whatsoever on the pith-eater except that if you ever find out what it is, I'd love to know. (I am a person who used to eat raw lemons like other citrus fruit until a dentist told me to stop for my teeth, but my feelings about the edibility of lemon zest mostly require baking.) How many fruit trees do you have?
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Date: 2019-11-30 08:06 pm (UTC)*The Little Cherry Tree That Could has upgraded itself from The Charlie Brown Cherry Tree, because it used to be the fruit equivalent of that pathetic thing in the Peanuts Christmas special. It is roughly my height and in 2016 it produced approximately two dozen cherries; in 2019 it produced approximately a gallon. It is ambitious to grow up to be a ~real tree~.
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Date: 2019-11-30 08:19 pm (UTC)That's really cool.
It is roughly my height and in 2016 it produced approximately two dozen cherries; in 2019 it produced approximately a gallon. It is ambitious to grow up to be a ~real tree~.
Tell it I'm rooting for it!
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Date: 2019-11-30 08:23 pm (UTC)<rimshot>
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Date: 2019-12-01 08:49 am (UTC)Eventually it got eaten up too badly by carpenter ants -- the trunk, not the cherries -- and fell over -- luckily not on anything, as far as I know (I was off in grad school at the time), but even so, it was rather a loss.
I was always sad that store-bought cherries were never the same as the ones from my childhood. And then about a year and a half ago I happened across a basket of fresh sour cherries at Milk Pail Market, and bought them, and had this epiphany of oh that's what that cherry tree was on top of the bliss of having those cherries for the first time in two decades.
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Date: 2019-12-02 08:21 pm (UTC)I find sour cherries (at least our sour cherries) just a little bit too tart for ideal snacking, though some of our friends love them. Kyle's been experimenting with making them into jam, but he hasn't yet found a recipe he likes, and so far the results have been more liquid than he was hoping -- he's not sure why they aren't quite setting. Last year we thought it was because I picked them a litte too early and they hadn't developed enough pectin, but this year I picked them later and he added pectin, and it's still kind of syrupy. Tasty as all get-out, though!
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Date: 2019-11-30 10:13 pm (UTC)I, too, have heard vaguely of quince and always wondered what it tasted like. When you say strong, and related to apples: does that mean the taste is something close to a really excellent apple butter made with particularly tart apples? or am I off-base there.
That sounds, for the record, like an amazing pie selection. Your husband's lucky the quince and apple one was as nice as it was, or he'd've had a very cross household forced to eat the entirety of another pie they weren't keen on. ;)
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Date: 2019-12-01 08:56 am (UTC)Personally, I always eat a few slices raw when I'm cutting them up for cooking.
Oddly, when I was a kid and had only encountered them in books, I always thought they were a kind of citrus.
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Date: 2019-12-01 09:02 am (UTC)It's funny, cause also as a book geek who encountered them, I thought they were grapes! It'd be an interesting topic for a con bar, what we all thought quince were. :d
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Date: 2019-12-01 09:09 am (UTC)Parsnips, now that I think of it, might be another thing to include on a parallel topic. I think I may have thought that they were a sort of greens.
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Date: 2019-12-01 08:47 pm (UTC)And yeah, you could have a whole list of typically fantasy-utilized rl food--in a world where we're so accustomed to fairly bland, sliced cheese, esp as kids, I'd be willing to bet you good money a lot! of fantasy readers wouldn't understand how sharp those wheels of cheese Frodo and the others enjoy at the Prancing Pony actually are! ;) It'd be a grand ice breaker.
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Date: 2019-12-02 08:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-12-02 08:23 pm (UTC)Your husband's lucky the quince and apple one was as nice as it was, or he'd've had a very cross household forced to eat the entirety of another pie they weren't keen on. ;)
We didn't even make it to the second pie! That one came home with us.
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Date: 2019-12-01 09:07 pm (UTC)Along with all of the other suggestions try roast quince, it's great with fatty meat like duck or pork, and a jolly good way to use up quite a few. Also baked quince for dessert with rich cream.
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Date: 2019-12-01 09:15 pm (UTC)I've never had any success with bletting quinces.
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Date: 2019-12-05 05:29 am (UTC)Interesting about medlars. I got a comment from somebody on the Goodreads mirror of this post who adores them; I don't know which way I'd feel, but I certainly wouldn't pass up the chance to at least try one.
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Date: 2019-12-02 09:10 am (UTC)Maybe next year I will buy some of them and make a quince and apple pie.
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Date: 2019-12-02 08:27 pm (UTC)Draeger's probably has them, but (see above) Draeger's feels like it's judging me every time I walk in there. :-P